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Whether the issue is slavery or the Holocaust, these events have been used to instill guilt and fear into the minds of white Americans for supposed historical wrongs committed by our people.

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Today more than ever, European Americans as a people need to stand together and fight the forces which are destroying our civilization
and ensuring that our future that we will inherit, especially our children, will be a third world sewer in place of the once great nation that we had here.

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It's time to stop the hatred and the guilt mongering in this country. And it's time to start taking our country back and our heritage back and our future back.

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It's time to smash the guilt and the fear which has held us hostage for all these years. And it's time to tell the real rulers of this country. The Jews who own the media in America.

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That their time is over. We're done. We're finished with it. If you go to our table in the back, you'll see a pamphlet called Who Rules America?

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It'll give you the name of all the Jews who own the media. It goes down step by step. Print media, TV, publishing, everything that you could ever want to know.

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And when you finally read this pamphlet, you'll understand why it is when you turn to any channel,
it's the same news on every single channel. Across the board.

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And it's also the reason why patriots like ourselves are unable to get on TV
in the major mass media. Because they don't want us there. They don't want white Americans to stand up for our rights.

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They've been doing everything they can to destroy our unity as a people. They've taken away our heritage. They've forced us to live with people who are not like us.

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Who have different ways, different cultures, different ideas about what life is about. And that these people in our society
have behaved just as you'd expect.

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If you look to Africa, you look anywhere else,
you'll find that their behavior is consonant across the board.

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It's time for us to stand together,
whether we're Germans, Italians, Brits or Frenchmen, Irish or Dane,
as white men and women of the West. And it's time for us to fight for our future.

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And it's time for the National Alliance. It is time to finally start fighting back. And tonight, we have a man who's fought a lone fight
for the truth against all odds.

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This man has put his career and his life
on the line for what he believes. A man who has smashed one of the greatest historical lies
that has ever been told.

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What just happens to be one of the greatest weapons used
against whites around the world to instill hatred and fear
into the minds of our people.

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And has been used to destroy our will to survive and resist. Gentlemen, ladies, please welcome British historian
and fighter for the truth, Mr. David Irving.

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Well, ladies and gentlemen, I know now that I'm in Florida,
torrential rain,
and here I am speaking to an audience of neo-Nazis,
brown shirts,
teenage vampires.

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This is the Florida which I'm familiar with. I love coming here. I love coming to the United States. I love driving around this country of yours. And now I am almost at the end of the road.

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This is the last meeting on this,
my November-December tour of your country.

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From here, I go on literally down to the end of the road in Key West,
which is my base in your country,
from which I operate my own fight
against people I call the traditional enemy of the truth.

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Those traditional enemies aren't only the Jewish owners of the media
in this country. And I have to admit that, to a degree,
I differ from the aims of the National Alliance.

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I personally find nothing objectionable if the Jews take over the media
in Los Angeles and New York and the other countries
and the other states of the Union,
if they do a good and decent job,
and if they keep an impartial mind,
and if they don't disadvantage us,
and if they don't disadvantage me personally.

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I don't mind. If they're better than the rest of the Americans
and if the rest of the Americans let them do that job,
then basically you had it coming to you. It's a democracy.

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That's what democracy is about.

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But the moment they use their power and their influence
in order to disadvantage me
by campaigning to have me taken off the television programs and channels,
by putting pressure on the media, by putting pressure on the newspapers,
by putting pressure on my publishers,
as an author who's been published in this country now
for 30 years in all the famous publishing houses,
The Viking Press, Little Brown, Simon & Schuster, Random House,
Avon Books, HarperCollins.

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I've been published by most of the famous names in Madison Avenue.

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The moment they start putting pressure on these publishers,
publishing the names of the chief executives and the chairmen
and their families and their wives and their children on the Internet
in order that people can subject them to a barrage of death threats
and obscenities and insults
until they get rid of that obnoxious author David Irving
on their publishing list.

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The moment they disadvantage me in that manner,
then I'm about to say that I disapprove of them controlling the media
because they are abusing their power.

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They are abusing their position of trust that has been vested in them
by the American people. So in that degree I differ by a nuance
from the position of the National Alliance.

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I'm a great believer in to each according to his ability.

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And if they have the ability and they know how to produce the movies
and the programs that people want to go and flock to see in the cinemas
and the movie theaters and watch on the television channels
and the rest of the Americans let them do it, then so be it.

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But not to the disadvantage of those who disapprove of them. And not, above all, if it means the distortion of history,
which is where I myself come in.

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Because for 30, 35 years now I've been writing history.

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And I've been writing the kind of history of which they disapprove
to an increasing degree,
to a point where they have now begun a worldwide global campaign
to try and destroy me, to ruin me, to hammer me into the ground,
to force me into bankruptcy.

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And to their dismay they are finding, as I've said,
on the media in Australia,
and I at this point welcome the presence here
of the Australian television team from Channel 9,
which has been following me around for the last two or three days
because they have noticed what's been going on.

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They've taken an objective interest in the kind of methods
that are being used to silence me
and the kind of methods I am using to fight back.

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And I've said to the Australian media,
I'm like one of those red ants, ladies and gentlemen,
like one of those red ants that you think you can grind into the ground
with your heel, and you think you've finally finished it off,
and you pick your heel up and that thing wriggles itself clear,
straightens out its legs and marches off triumphantly
and has to be crushed into the ground.

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I'll say it again. Or to put it in a slightly less gentlemanly way,
I'm a full flush shit. The kind that you flush down the toilet and it comes back again. You flush it again and it's still there.

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And you finally think you've got rid of it,
and blame me darn, it comes up again,
and you just can't get rid of it. And they can't get rid of David Irving. I keep on coming back to plague them.

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I'm obnoxious. A word that they have used with increasing frequency
in the editorials in Australia,
obnoxious though he is, he ought to be allowed in.

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They don't really know why I'm obnoxious,
because not many of them have read my books by now.

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Because the people concerned have been going
to great lengths to ensure that my books are no longer printed, that they are taken surreptitiously
out of the bookshelves of the bookstores, that they don't appear at the university libraries
anymore.

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The Library Journal in this country, which is the library trade magazine, when this
book was about to be published by St.

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Martin's Press, the Goebbels biography, in spring of this
year, the Library Journal, in one of three catastrophic anonymous reviews, pleaded with the
library trade, above all, do not order this book.

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Don't allow it to be ordered by your library. It
mustn't reach the shelves of our libraries in this country. This is the terror that my opponents live
under.

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The fact that possibly a book by David Irving, based on the original archives and sources
that I alone have access to, might reach the libraries and there be available free to the
American public and students to read.

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Because they managed to prevent St. Martin's Press from publishing the book by this campaign
of terror against the publishing house. St.

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Martin's Press, which had signed the contract
with me a year ago to publish this book. St.

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Martin's Press, which came under increasing
campaign of death threats and obscene telephone calls from February of this year onwards. St.

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Martin's Press, which for three, no, four weeks, told the press valiantly, we will not
cave in to this kind of campaign of intimidation. St.

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Martin's Press, which said that the Library
said that they intended to stand up for freedom of speech and that these were the methods
that Dr.

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Goebbels and the Nazis themselves would have used to try and suppress freedom
of speech. And when the Washington Post phoned me to say this, I said, they'll cave in. They're
going to surrender.

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The Washington Post said, Mr. Irving, they are announcing that they
are not going to cave in. And they believe in freedom of speech. And I said, they will
cave in.

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I know they will cave in because I know who we are up against. I know who our
enemies are.

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And these enemies would not have started this campaign against us if they had
been against me, David Irving, if they didn't know in advance that they had won.

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That is
the kind of position that we're in. And I know who the enemies are because I'm now fighting
them with the law. Australian television said to me a few weeks ago, so are you suggesting,
Mr.

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Irving, that this is some kind of international conspiracy against you? This is rather like
being asked, are you an anti-Semite? They say, are you suggesting it's an international
conspiracy? Ho, ho.

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Well, the answer is, of course, it is an international conspiracy. But the moment you say that, you do appear to be some kind of anti-Semitic.

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It's a kind of paranoid crackpot, a nutter, as the Prime Minister of Australia called
me. So I said, no, it's not an international conspiracy. But let's start in general terms
and say it's a network.

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They network around the world. What do I mean by network? Well,
I'll give you one example. There I was in Vancouver City Jail, as you would expect a
historian to be held by a great country like Canada.

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I was being held in Vancouver City
Jail in handcuffs in a cell without a mattress and without a bed, waiting to be deported,
from Canada, after I'd been picked up the previous evening by eight Mounties in their
famous uniforms who had marched into the restaurant where I'd just delivered a speech to an audience
the size of you, a speech on the subject of free speech.

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And at the end of that speech
on the subject of free speech, I was arrested and taken to the mainland, held in jail, and
the following morning, I'm in the courthouse, and the opposition, the prosecution, presents
to me a document, a fax, and across the top line of this faxed document were the mysterious
letters, S-A-J-B-I.

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It had come from an organization called S-A-J-B-O-D to Vancouver, which, as you know, is the top
left-hand corner of North America. S-A-J-B-O-D, South African Jewish Board of Deputies.

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I happen
to know what that acronym stands for, because I've been in South Africa quite a lot, speaking
down there too.

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With the speed of light, literally, with the modern speed of electronic telecommunications,
the one organization that faxed, even during the midnight hours, from the southernmost
point of South Africa to the northwesternmost point of North Africa.

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It was an organization
that was in the middle of South America. The data that might be needed in order to try
and defame and ruin and vilify me and cast me into purgatory in this Canadian prison.

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Are they an international conspiracy? No. They network just like that.

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And how they
network is evidenced by the fact that when, two or three years later, after the work had
been done by my legal representatives in Canada, and we had prized open with our legal crowbars
the files of the Canadian government, to find out precisely what had gone on behind the
scenes to find out why I was in handcuffs in that jail in Vancouver City.

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We found out that there was a mysterious document in the files of the Canadian government, 50
pages long, which the Canadian government finally released to us under their Freedom
of Information Act, but they cut off the top and they cut off the bottom, so we couldn't
see who had written this report on David Irving.

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A report full of lies about me. Mr. Irving sits in his office in London made to full-scale portrait of Adolf Hitler. Not very appetizing, you might think. In fact, I do have a portrait of Adolf Hitler.

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I have it in my office. It's not on the wall. This is it here. The reason I have it is because Hitler himself sketched it.

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It's a piece of paper of inestimable value given to me by Adolf Hitler's private secretary
at the end of my research for 20 years into that man's life.

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On the back of this piece of card, Adolf Hitler sketched Eva Braun, his famous girlfriend.

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It's a piece of paper of inestimable value, tens of thousands of dollars worth, so I'm
proud to have that in my office. It's a memento, a relic of my work on that.

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That man, writing his life and his career, could know this report on me in the Canadian
government file. It said I have a full-scale oil painting of Hitler on the wall of my office. Mr.

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Irving said his wife is the daughter of one of General Franco's top generals. He married her in order to worm his way into Spanish fascist circles. I telephoned my ex-wife.

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I said, what was your father? She said he was an industrial chemist. Never been in uniform. Never seen him in his life. A left-winger, in fact, it turned out.

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In fact, two of his brothers had been assassinated by General Franco's generals.

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But this is the kind of lie that this report contained on me in the Canadian government's
files, and they wouldn't tell me who had done it.

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It took me three years to find out that it had been generated by a British body called
the Board of Deputies of British Jews, the top body of the Jewish organization in England,
a highly respectable body which has been in existence in Britain since 1740, the kind
of umbrella body of all the...

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I don't know. I don't know. The Jewish synagogues in Britain. Immensely wealthy. It says it's the equivalent of the B'nai B'rith in Canada, which has an annual income of $50
million a year.

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This immensely wealthy body had created this report and submitted it in secret to the Canadian
government. And I now know how, because, of course, I used the law, because this report was libelous.

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You can't do it in the United States. You've got, unfortunately, a president in this country called New York Times v.

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Sullivan,
which makes it almost impossible for a public figure like myself to protect himself against
the libels of others. But in England, we have a very effective libel law.

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And I started libel proceedings against the board, which have reached their first court
hearing only a couple of weeks ago in England.

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On the other side, the Board of Deputies, the first thing they did was to submit this
whining, yelping, whinging affidavit.

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I'm only going to read just two or three lines from this affidavit by the Board of Deputies
if I can find my spectacles. Here they are, out of my pocket. Mr.

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Irving's activities, it says, have been monitored by the Board for several years. Remember, this is a private English body, not some kind of government MI5.

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I don't mind being monitored by the CIA or MI5 or the FBI or the Office of Special Investigations
or whatever.

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I don't mind, because I've got nothing to conceal, and I break no crimes anywhere worldwide,
period, full stop. Mr. Irving's activities have been monitored by the Board for a number of years.

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The reasons for this are plain.

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The report was compiled by my department as part of his normal day-to-day activities,
normal day-to-day activities of an umbrella group of synagogues, a kind of religious body.

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Is that their normal function, spying on English citizens, compiling libelous reports about
people with paintings of Hitler on the walls and deliberately marrying into Spanish fascist
circles?

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However, at some time in 1992, I received a request for information on Mr. Irving by
the Nibert League of Human Rights in Canada.

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What, us, an international conspiracy, us, networking to provide dirt and defame British
citizens to foreign governments? That's how they do it.

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I won't bother to read the rest of you, but I mean that he goes on to say, yes, we did
write the report. They finally come clean and admit it. But they go on to say, unfortunately, Mr.

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Irving can't do anything about it because
it's now more than three years old and so, ha, ha, you can't touch us. That's what they think. We have other laws in England.

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And I'm going to get them under those laws, too, because that particular fight is going
on. They're unaccustomed to the fact that I'm that red ant. I'm not going to be crushed, and I am fighting back.

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Obviously, it has had a crushing effect on me, I admit that, when this book, on which
I worked eight years, was hammered into the ground, when St.

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Martin's Press announced
on the 3rd of April this year in a news announcement, it went around the world, believe me, around
the world with the speed of light. It went around the world.

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My fax machine in London, my 4,000 friends around the world sent me what their local
newspapers had printed, the South China Morning Post, the San Francisco Chronicle, the Cape
Downtown, Johannesburg Star, Hamburger Abendblatt, every single newspaper important reported
the fact that this book by David Irving had been abandoned by his own publisher who had
described him as a neo-Nazi and an apologist for Hitler and all the other things.

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Totally untrue. They could have done the decent thing and said, Mr. Irving, on balance, we've decided
not to publish your book. They could have done that.

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They could have said, we'll try and find another publisher for you. We apologize that we're going to break our contract with you. I kept the contract with them. They broke it with me.

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They could have done that, but no, in doing this, they picked up their skirts and fled.

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They picked up their skirts, and as they did so, they ground their stiletto heels into
my face in order to try and clear their name with their pals in the media business.

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We're sorry we were going to publish David Irving. We've only just discovered who he was. That's what he said. We've only just discovered who he was.

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We've only just—and do you know how they discovered who I was? Because they were told there was something about me on the internet.

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Well, this shows one thing, ladies and gentlemen, that the traditional enemies of the truth,
the people I mentioned, have learned from this man, Dr. Joseph Goebbels, Adolf Hitler's
propaganda chief.

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He established two basic principles of propaganda, and they have used both those principles in
the fight against me. The first principle is that when you generate a lie, you keep it civilized.

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The first principle is that when you generate a lie, you keep it civilized. The first principle is that when you generate a lie, you keep it civilized. It's simple. Holocaust denial.

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That is a very simple lie, two words easily remembered by even the stupidest person in
the media. Holocaust denial. And you repeat it as often as possible.

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But when you create that lie, the important thing is—this is Joseph Goebbels' own decoration
technique—don't plant that lie in your own medium. Dr.

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Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's genius of a propaganda minister, he created that principle. He said that when we, as a Nazi government, establish a lie for wartime purpose, before
purposes.

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I know it will come as a shock to you Americans, the notion that governments
can lie, but here we go. When we as a government create a lie, you don't plant that lie in
your own newspapers.

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You plant it somewhere else, the Svenska Dagbladet in Stockholm,
or the Mexico City News, or something like that.

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You plant it in some friendly newspaper
which you probably own shares in, and then you quote it from there, because then the
lie can't be traced back to you.

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And if eventually the lie is exposed as a lie, it doesn't discredit
your own newspapers, it discredits them.

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So you quote the lie somewhere, you plant the
lie somewhere else, and you quote it from there, and that way you're protected.

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I think
they call it plausible deniability in the present Washington administration. Plausible
deniability, you plant it somewhere else.

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Except that now, for Svenska Dagbladet, you
read the internet, you plant the lie on the internet, and that's what our friends did,
the traditional enemies of the truth, they planted the lies about me on the internet,
and then they went to Tom McCormack, the chairman of St.

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Martin's Press, and said,
oi, excuse me, have you seen what there is about David Irving on the internet?

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And they
didn't add the fact, oh, by the way, we planted the lies about David Irving on the internet
in the first place. That's the way they work.

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Let me give you another frightening example
of the way they work.

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After I was arrested in Vancouver in 1992, and I fought for three
weeks in the Canadian courts to establish my innocence and to clear my name, and to
restore my reputation, which wasn't easy, and the entire Canadian media took an interest
in this, and the entire Canadian media were present in the courtroom, finally, in Toronto,
where my fate was decided.

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And they had 15 television teams there, all being fed by one
television camera, and all the media and reporters. It was like the O.J. Simpson case, I remember,
in November 1992.

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And it all came down to the fact that I had accepted what is called
a voluntary departure notice, because the judge in Vancouver said, Mr. Irving, this
case is going to take five weeks to decide.

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We're going to have to hold you for five weeks. And I said, if you hold me for five weeks, my lecture tour is in ruins. The lecture tour
is only going to last four weeks anyway.

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I said, I propose that instead of that, I accept
what is called a voluntary departure notice, which says that I undertake to leave Canada
in the next two or three days by certain date.

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And the judge said, excellent idea. You do
that.

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You leave Canada by Sunday night or midnight, and you can come back any time afterwards
if you want to, of course, in the future, because you haven't been deported. Big difference.

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If you are deported from Canada, you have been deported from a country, the British Commonwealth.

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Deported from a country, the British Commonwealth, you will be banned from Australia, banned
from New Zealand, banned from South Africa, banned from every country in the British Commonwealth
which so desires, which is what the traditional enemy wanted.

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They wanted to silence me all
around the world in the British Commonwealth with one swoop. But of course, by going for
the voluntary departure notice, I'd caught them out. I'd checkmated them.

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And that's
what I did. I arranged to leave Canada three nights later
appointed hour. Before I did that, I left the courthouse in Vancouver.

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And as I left
the courthouse, by chance, a man came up to me and he said, would I mind signing some
documents for him?

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Some sketches that had been done by the notorious Hitler diaries
forger, because he wanted me to double sign them because I was the person who exposed
the Hitler diaries as forgerers in 1983.

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And that would increase their value. So I said,
sure. And we drove to his home, which to my horror turned out to be on the United States
side of the border. I didn't mind.

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I had a passport, permanent visa. We drove to his
home that night, two hours. And we drove to his home, which to my horror, turned out to
be on the United States side of the border.

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And we drove to his home, which to my horror,
turned out to be on the United States side of the border. And we drove to his home, two
hours. Drove back to Vancouver. And I thought no more about it.

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But this meant that I had
incidentally of course, complied with the voluntary departure notice, which is the one
thing my enemies had not wanted to happen at all.

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So I was free to come back to Canada
as I wanted. Terribly complicated. When Sunday evening came and I tried to leave Canada as
I was supposed to, something rather odd happened.

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I drove across the Rainbow Bridge at the Niagara
Falls, which is right up the other end of the United States, as you know. From Canada
into the United States one hour before my deadline.

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Otherwise I would turn into a pumpkin. I thought.

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When I arrived at the American end of the Rainbow Bridge, with my passport,
with a permanent visa for entry into the United States stamped in it, I was held for one hour
and five minutes by the American authorities, while the teleprinters and the telephone lines
that to and fro across the bridge zinged and hummed and clattered.

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And at the end of that
one hour and five minutes, the American immigration official called me and said, I'm going to
have to go back to Canada.

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The American immigration official came out of his office shrugging
and said, I'm sorry, Mr. Irving, we have a problem.

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You're going to have to go back to
the Canadian end of the bridge to sort out one or two problems.

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Five minutes past midnight
I was back on the Canadian end of the bridge, not having entered the United States. They
were waiting for me with handcuffs and with grins on their faces at the Canadian end.

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And of course, it was only a short matter from there to get me officially deported as
the mandatory consequence of having failed to comply.

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adapt each method to the country they're trying to get me barred from with the
result that I'm effectively barred from every journalist say mr.

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early which
countries you know barred from and I say let me tell you which countries I can
get into the United States of America period that effectively is the only
country that I'm still allowed freely to wander around in and if you don't know
this let me emphasize this fact to you now you live in a country with freedom
of speech it may not be apparent to you they may be grousing and griping and
grumbling about the Jewish control of the media and whatever but you do have
freedom of speech you can in theory not be arrested or handcuffed or imprisoned
or criminalized for expressing an opinion which is politically incorrect
you don't appreciate this because you live in this atmosphere but for me it's
a rarefied oxygen to come to a country where I can spout utter nonsense if I
want to
because that is what freedom of speech is about I can come to the United States
and I can be wrong if I want to because that is what freedom of speech is about
it's the right to be wrong in public and I do urge you to do everything you can
jointly and severally to protect the First Amendment to the Bill of Rights to
the United States Constitution because you don't really appreciate what you've
got I can give you examples of what it's like in other countries in Germany I was
fined twenty two thousand dollars for saying one sentence in a
public lecture like this that brings the silence among you isn't it
twenty two thousand dollars for saying one sentence and the sentence was the
gas chamber in Auschwitz which they show to the tourists is a fake built after
the war by the Polish Communist government that is the sentence I said
fine twenty two thousand dollars by the German law courts who would not allow me
or my lawyers to produce any evidence in defense we weren't allowed to produce
any documents we weren't allowed to call expert witnesses we weren't even allowed to call the
present director of the auschwitz state museum who was prepared to testify the one i said was true
the judge wouldn't allow it he said under german law that that gas chamber is genuine
and therefore it is a crime to have said the opposite 22 000 fine
i admit there have been some dispute over whether the word fake is called for in this case
the new zealand herald three days ago published a reader's letter from a mr rubin
saying david irving is talking through his hat he said david irving first of all is totally
unqualified as a historian he has no academic qualifications whatsoever
this is true i admit i have no academic qualifications 30 40 years ago i left university
too poor to continue i left university 40 years ago and 30 books ago so i have no qualifications
except
those 30 books which are widely praised by academics around the world
he then goes on in this reader's editor to say and is also totally wrong to call that
gas chamber a fake it's a reconstruction if mr irving doesn't know the difference
between a reconstruction and a fake then he shouldn't call himself a historian so said
this reader's letter in the new zealand herald three days ago to miss my which my response is
to which my response is
a fake like the bomb scared has just been telephoned to this hotel that is a fake
if this mr rubin was to offer me a reconstructed a reconstruction of a 20 bill i don't think i'd
accept that that is what i would call a fake if for 50 years the authorities in auschwitz
have been showing a building to bus loads of shuddering school children from all over europe
telling them that is the gas chamber where the nazis killed millions of jews
and if they haven't had the honesty to write in big letters above the door
what you are seeing is just a reconstruction on the basis of eyewitness testimony
then that is a fake they have concealed the fact that it's a reconstruction which makes it a fake
and i'm fine 22 000 for pointing this fact out because it's an embarrassment of course it's an
embarrassment the embarrassment is of course why do they show the school children the fake
building here when allegedly there were genuine gas chamber ruins just down the road three or four
miles away
well that's because people start asking questions they say this is odd ruins of a gas chamber but
i think according to maps i've seen this was the crematorium not a gas chamber at all
four crematoria in auschwitz because they had immense typhus problems they had epidemics with
tens of thousands of the inmates dying which is a crime and anybody who says to me david
irving says it wasn't the crime what happened to the jews in auschwitz or elsewhere is also
doing an injustice because there was undoubtedly a crime but we're arguing about scale we're arguing
intent we're arguing about the high how and the why and the wherefore and this is what we are not
allowed to do this is what we are criminalized for and penalized for winston churchill who's a man for
whom i normally don't have very much respect he got one thing right as a writer when he said that
the job of a historian is to find out what happened and why very brief aphorism the
job of a historian like myself is to find out what happened and why when you come to the holocaust when
you come to the holocaust you don't know the answer to either question we have been discouraged
really from investigating the jewish historians themselves have said for heaven's sake don't let
the debate descend to statistics and real scientific evidence let's keep it on an emotional
level that is what they have actually said let's keep the debate about the holocaust on an emotional
level because that is where they feel safest because when people like me come the obnoxious
people come and start asking questions like how do you cremate one million people in auschwitz
if cremating one person takes 40 to 60 kilograms of coke that means that the cremate one million
people is going to take 40 to 60 000 tons of coke and where are those 40 or 60 000 tons of coke they
don't care what the cop is taking photographs nor are there truck loads of coke being driven up nor
are there railway lines bringing in the bringing in the wagon loads of coke so that is prima facie
by itself improbable and anyway these four crematory we know exactly what their handling
capacity was how many cadavers could be cremated at a time we know they couldn't have cremated more
than tops 70 80 90 000 people in the four or five years that the camp is in existence these are the
And not only that, you have the problem that people say, well, no doubt the Nazis destroyed all the records.

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At the end of World War II, everything was destroyed, of course. That's what the Nazis were like. They covered their tracks.

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Well, ladies and gentlemen, I'm an obnoxious historian who's worked for 50 years in the archives,
and those archives have still not been properly researched. They're still in total disarray.

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And believe me, it would not have been possible in the last one or two weeks of the collapsing Third Reich
for somebody to go around all the archives taking out all the references to gas chambers, if there were any,
or all the references to the final solution, if there were any, and destroying them.

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They couldn't have done it.

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And even if they could have destroyed all the German records relating to the final solution
and all the German records which contained the fatal word gas chamber,
so that there aren't any left in the archives now in Germany,
they couldn't, the Nazis, have destroyed what is in the British files.

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Because, you see, we British were reading the German files. We were reading the German secret messages.

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When the commandant of Auschwitz concentration camp sent a message to Berlin reporting what he was doing,
giving the actual daily statistics of how many prisoners were arriving,
how many were leaving, how many were in the camp at midnight,
how many had died.

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We have those code messages in Britain. Those actual code messages from the commandant of Auschwitz, we know what he reported.

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And the chief historian of the British secret service, who printed this in volume two of the official British history of the secret service,
as an appendix, he states,
it's quite evident that huge numbers of people died in Auschwitz concentration camp from typhus epidemics,
from illness and disease.

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A small number died from execution, being executed by hanging or shooting. And then he goes on to say, there is no reference in the intercepted telegrams to anybody being gassed. No reference at all.

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Hundreds and hundreds of code telegrams and the top secret SS code,
and there's no reference to anybody being gassed in Auschwitz.

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These are the kind of documents which mean something to me as a historian. And that is why when people say, well, what about all the eyewitness evidence? I say, eyewitness evidence baloney.

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Tell that to John Demjanjuk about eyewitness evidence.

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The man, the Cleveland autoworker, who was nearly hanged in Israel on the basis of eyewitness evidence,
until the Jewish judges in Israel, the Israeli Supreme Court, said this evidence was not good enough.

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They themselves had to acquit John Demjanjuk, admitting that eyewitness evidence alone was not good enough,
and that the eyewitnesses,
eyewitnesses had erred and that they had identified the wrong man.

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Eyewitness evidence is not good enough if there is a total lack of collateral evidence in the archives. And here we have to say, there is no such evidence.

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The Auschwitz records, the construction records of the Auschwitz camp,
have now turned up in the same Moscow archives where I found the Goebbels diaries in 1992.

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Here they are, here's a picture of the Moscow archives. Me standing outside the door of the Moscow Supreme State Archives.

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And in that same building are the entire construction records of the Auschwitz concentration camp,
where we are told four million people were put to death brutally in a factory of death,
conveyor belt methods in gas chambers and their bodies disposed of to nothingness by these super-efficient crematorium.

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And yet there's no reference to this in the records, which are now found to be in the Soviet state archives.

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On the contrary, in the Soviet state archives we find discharge notices, discharge papers on prisoners from Auschwitz. Prisoners who've been in Auschwitz.

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Prisoners who've been in Auschwitz concentration camp and have served their time and who the Nazis have let go and sent out of the Auschwitz concentration camp back to their normal daily life.

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But of course this raises obvious questions.

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How come the Nazis allowed people to go out of the Auschwitz camp when they were the bearers of the terrible secret of the same gas chambers that all the other eyewitnesses had seen?

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The answer is there's something wrong with the memories of those eyewitnesses. And I don't mean to demean them. People have been through a traumatic and a horrifying experience.

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But unfortunately every journalist and every reporter and every policeman knows that we have problems with eyewitnesses.

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And as the years pass, their memories become fickle and fragile, and they begin to replace gaps in their memory with what they have read in the meantime. I'm not demeaning them by saying that.

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I'm not trying to put down these elderly widows and these men who have been through the horrors of Auschwitz. And I have in fact seen members of their family disappear in Auschwitz. for the last time.

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I'm not trying to suggest that they are deliberately inventing something. This is the way that legends arise.

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They are legends which have been reported by well-meaning
innocent people to other well-meaning innocent people who have in turn regained their friends
with the same stories.

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It's the way that not only legends arise, it's the way that religions
arise. And this is why, really, we are frowned upon, those of us who want to open the box
called Holocaust.

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We demand the right to take off the packaging and have a look into
that box with a big capital H on it to see what it is comprised of. Because it's almost
a blasphemy. We're investigating a religion.

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It's like those scientists who a few years
ago demanded the right to subject the Holy Turin Shroud to modern carbon dating techniques
to find out how old that piece of cloth really was.

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It's blasphemy almost, and we don't
really want to be told, except that in the case of the Holocaust, we have to be told
because more is at stake than just people's fragile memories and their personal self-respect.

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What is at stake in the question of the Holocaust, I submit, is the fact that a people have dined
out on the Holocaust since 1945.

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They've dined out on it at the expense of the German taxpayers,
which may be a matter of complete indifference to you. But they've also dined out on it at
the expense of the American taxpayers.

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We were paid $4 billion a year to the economy of the State of Israel for no other reason
than that you have this sense of collective guilt for what happened, for what we did to
them. We weren't Nazis.

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We weren't alive at the time.

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We didn't pull the plug or open
the cyanide crystal cans or whatever else is alleged to have happened, and yet we are
encouraged to have a collective feeling of guilt towards the Jewish people because of
what we did to them.

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Schindler's List, a prime example of guilt-mongering. The Simon Wiesenthal Center, a prime example of guilt-mongering. The Simon Wiesenthal Center. Simon Wiesenthal rents out his name.

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He gets $90,000 a year for the right to use his name. In fact, the Simon Wiesenthal Center is now sub-licensing his name to concessions all
over the United States and North America.

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There's a junior Simon Wiesenthal Center in
Toronto. There's another Simon Wiesenthal Center in Houston.

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There's going to be Simon
Wiesenthal Centers established all over the United States, rather like McDonald's, with
a big yellow W on the roof, where you're going to get your bite of remorsefulness.

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That's what they're aiming at. Every single city has its Holocaust Center now. I know
this because I went to Pittsburgh in September, as I've gone for the last six years, to exhibit
my wares.

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And on this occasion, the owners of the hall, the great big Expo Mart, had
been approached by the local Holocaust Museum, who put pressure on the Expo Mart not to allow
me to display my wares.

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And it has cost me so far $17,000 a year to display my wares. And it has cost me so far
$17,000 a year to display my wares. And it has cost me so far $17,000 a year to display
my wares.

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And it has cost me so far $17,000, and legal fees, to fight them off. The judge,
Judge Friedman, told the Expo Mart that she was going to grant my application for an injunction.

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Because, as she said, this is the United States of America. Freedom of speech is, as I said,
still not against the law in this country. So it's us against them.

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And this is a regrettable
situation, because the us against them-ness of it pits us against the organized Jewish
community that we've just produced.

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in the United States, in North America, in the world. I find myself now fighting the worldwide organized international Jewish community
through no wrongdoing of my own.

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And when I try to bestir myself and defend myself,
their first line of defense is to say to me,
aren't you an anti-Semite? What am I going to say there?

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For 10, 20, 30 years now, I have found myself subjected to harassment
to death threats, to an organized campaign of violence
by organized Jewish communities acting against me as Jews.

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When I try to lift one little finger to defend myself,
their first line of defense is to say he's an anti-Semite. I'm not an anti-Semite. I'm a Christian and I turn the other cheek.

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But I now have not enough other cheeks to turn. And I'm beginning to fight back. They are now screaming with rage that I'm an anti-Semite. And I'm not.

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But I have to admit that they are beginning to slip
in my personality. They're going down. And I'm defending myself as well as I can. I am carapacing myself with ordinary Jews.

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And the majority of them are ordinary Jews
because the ones who cause the problem
are a tiny, self-appointed, selected minority
who have imposed their will on the rest of their community
and claim to speak in their name.

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And the ordinary Jews come up to me frequently
and say how deeply they regret what is happening. There's nothing they can do about it. There's very little. There's very little I can do about it.

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So why did they pick on this book? Well, in conclusion, I can say that I suspect
that Tom McCormack, the chairman of St.

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Martin's Press,
in torpedoing and sabotaging and assassinating this book,
he had more than a grain of truth
when he said that he read the book.

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He'd just read the book two or three days
before he made the announcement. He hadn't bothered to read it before.

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And he said, reading David Irving's book,
I was left with the subliminal impression
that the message he was giving was,
they had it coming to them. They being, of course, the Jews.

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They had it coming to them. And he wasn't going to publish a book that gave that message. And I was very indignant when he said that
because that certainly wasn't my message.

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But it's possible that that is the subliminal message of the book
because this was probably the message
that Dr. Joseph Goebbels himself believed. They had it coming to them.

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I give two or three examples. Firstly, the Nazi boycott of the Jews.

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We've all seen on television the pictures of the stormtroopers,
the brown shirts standing outside the stores,
in Berlin, preventing people from going into the Jewish shops
during the Nazi boycott of the Jews in 1933.

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I reveal in this book, in fact, in passing,
in the most objective manner possible,
that this Nazi boycott of the Jews occurred on one day,
April the 1st, 1933. In fact, it was a Saturday.

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And it was only one morning because in Germany,
they only had shops open on Saturday mornings,
never on Saturday afternoons. So the Jews only lost one morning of business.

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And in fact, being Jews, that was the Jewish Sabbath,
so the regular Jews wouldn't have had their stories. The stores were open anyway on that day.

00:41:09.697 --> 00:41:20.974
So the Nazis picked the day when they would do least damage,
with the maximum publicity effect, however,
against the Jewish community.

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And the other fact that I reveal, of course,
is that all that Goebbels was doing was retaliating
for the Jewish boycott of the Nazis,
which had occurred two or three weeks previously,
on such a scale that the Daily Express in England ran a headline saying,
Judea declares war on Germany.

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They started the boycott, and the Germans paid it back. And, of course, that boycott of Germany
was continuing by the Jewish community
ever since 1933 to the present date.

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You've only got to see the Hollywood movies
that have been made since that date. The Nazis made, I think, three anti-Jewish movies. Jude Zeus, The Rothschild Family, and The Wandering Jew.

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They made three anti-Jewish films, the Nazis. But how many anti-German films have the Hollywood movie moguls
made ever since then? Thousands, if not tens of thousands of such films.

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And I give one more example,
and this is the famous Night of Broken Glass. The Night of Broken Glass in November 1938. We all know what happened then. The Nazis ran amok.

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The first ugly European pogrom against the Jews,
actually this century,
in which every synagogue in Germany and Austria
was burned to the ground. Hundreds of Jewish stores were destroyed.

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20,000 Jews were rounded up and locked in concentration camps. 60 or 70 Jews were actually murdered that night. And these were undoubtedly crimes of the first order.

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But what no history book will tell you
is what happened before that. Why the Nazis ran amok. This book gives the details,
because I had Dr. Joseph Goebbels' diary of that day.

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I'm the first person to have used that diary. The Night of Broken Glass. The Kristallnacht. You've all heard about it.

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You're told about it repeatedly
every time November the 8th or the 10th comes round in this country. They celebrate these two events. Hanukkah and the Kristallnacht.

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The one with a minus sign, the other with a plus sign. But they don't tell you what triggered the Kristallnacht. And this was, four or five days previously,
a deranged Jewish church.

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A deranged Jewish youth called Herschel Greenspan
went amok in Paris,
ran into the German embassy with a gun,
asking for the German ambassador,
and shot dead the first German diplomat he came to,
a man called Fomrart.

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He died of his injuries three days later. Herschel Greenspan. And that was what triggered the pogrom three nights later. Dr. Goebbels said,
all right, get your own back on the Jews.

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Which was a despicable thing for Goebbels to do,
there's no doubt. But the one thing led to the other. But you never hear what triggered it all. Herschel Greenspan, the deranged Jew,
who ran amok.

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And ironically, Greenspan was the only Jew
who survived this whole episode. He survived the war. The French arrested him for murder. He went into a French prison.

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When the Nazis invaded France,
the Germans got hold of him. They were going to put him on trial in 1942. But then it turned out he had a very slick Jewish lawyer.

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And this Jewish lawyer invented the kind of O.J.-like defense,
which is to say that, in fact,
it was a lover's death between two homosexuals. That Greenspan, Herschel Greenspan,
invaded the embassy.

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Mr. Greenspan invaded the embassy
in order to gun down his estranged lover. And of course, Goebbels couldn't have that coming out in the newspapers,
even though it was a lie.

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So they decided to kill the whole trial
and just keep the guy on ice. Not literally. They kept him alive in a concentration camp. And he survived the war, Mr. Greenspan.

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In fact, there are some rumors that he became
governor of the Federal Reserve Bank of the United States. He survived the war.

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And these kind of details came out in this book,
along with all the ugly reasons that Goebbels gives in his own diaries
for not liking them. And this is one reason why I don't like Dr.

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Goebbels,
because it's an unfortunate trait of politicians like him
that they suffer when they're young,
and that when they then come into power themselves,
they repay that suffering to others tenfold.

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And that's what he did. He suffered when he was young from what the Jews did to him.

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So he said,
when he came to power,
he locked them up and he hounded them and harassed them,
and he turned 50, 60, 70,000 Jews out of Berlin,
the city of which he was the governor,
and he put them on the trains bound for Riga and Minsk
and Latvia and Auschwitz,
and they died.

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And he was the motor behind that. And they didn't like the fact that in my book,
I created the picture that,
in fact, it wasn't Hitler
who generated the campaign of hatred against the Jews.

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What they didn't like was the fact that I said it was Dr. Goebbels. I differentiate it. But I have to say that because I know both these people.

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I know both those people, Goebbels and Hitler,
as well as if I had been living with them myself. For 20 years, I persuaded Hitler's private people to talk to me.

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His secretaries and staff, his agents, his colonels, the adjutants. I got them to talk to me where they talked to others. So I knew precisely what happened on the Kristallnacht.

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I knew how when Hitler got the news that the synagogues were on fire,
he went ballistic.

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He spent the whole night on the telephone,
sending for his ministers
and getting the whole of this madness stopped. That was the true Hitler that I know about.

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And I know that Goebbels was the one who started it.

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But, of course, our traditional friends don't like this picture of history
because they have promoted Hitler as being the epitome of evil,
the incarnate, the picture of the devil incarnate.

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And having created this Madison Avenue,
this Hollywood image of the man,
they don't want the truth to interfere with the picture they've created. So I have to be destroyed.

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And I have to admit,
it's been an interesting phenomenon. You only see a small portion of it.

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You see what the local newspaper,
the Miami Herald or whatever,
publishes about what's being done to David Irving this time. And you think, poor guy, he's having a rough ride.

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But I see it magnified a thousandfold
because through the mouth of my fax machine
I get the same clipping coming from every major newspaper in the world.

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And I know that once again I'm being subjected to a Vesuvius mudslide
in an attempt to bury me. It's coming at me from every angle. I'm in the eye of the storm.

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I may appear to you calm and collected,
but I'm in the eye of the storm
and I can see on every angle of the horizon
these things bearing down on me. These ugly events.

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The mudslide, the chaos, the violence,
the death threats, the campaigns against me,
the attempt to destroy me. And I'm rather proud about it all. I can worry them this much.

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What is it that worries them? It's the truth that worries them. Which brings me back to the vampires
of which you're so proud here in Florida.

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The truth to these people
is like the sniff of garlic to the vampire. They can't stand it. It's like the sign of the cross. They can't stand it.

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They quail, they shrivel, they shrink away
when I approach. They can't stand the approach of David Irving. They slam the doors.

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They tell the prime ministers,
they tell the governments, they tell the police,
keep him out for God's sake. He has a Hitler portrait on it. He has war.

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He married one of the daughters of General Franco's generals. Whatever lie is necessary, keep him out and shut him up. And it makes me endlessly proud.

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Because all of that effort,
the millions of dollars they're spending to silence me,
can't prevent honest, ordinary, decent citizens like you
coming to hear me speak.

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And this is the way I get the message across, ladies and gentlemen. There are people out there who are interested
in finding out what really happened and why.

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And I, as a historian,
am here to provide those two answers. This is for you. Thank you.
